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perrin — 6/28/2025, 2:58:15 AM

I agree with this in theory but telling people who struggle with suicidal tendencies that they’re being selfish and cowardly is a very ungracious and unhelpful sentiment. Yes, suicide harms more people than just those who take their own lives, and that hurt should be noted. Still, insulting and belittling them does nothing helpful for anyone involved and can easily further wound an already poor self image, which can in turn lead them to further believe they are isolated or unworthy of love, common reasons for suicidality.

suicidal people need and deserve grace, care, gentleness, and emotional support, not belittlement and bitter treatment. anger and hostility is never the right way to respond to those who are hurting and need help.

if you are feeling suicidal, talk to someone openly and earnestly about it. please. you are more capable and more worthy of love than you realize. stay alive.

https://988lifeline.org / https://samaritanshope.org/our-services/24-7-helpline/

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owl — 6/27/2025, 11:27:08 PM

Suicide is such a selfish way of going about things. Maybe you don't give a damn about yourself and your life, but have you ever thought to consider the lives of everyone else?? Sure, perhaps it may be easier to die than to endure pain with patience, but would you really rather cowardly move your pain onto those around you than find better ways to deal with yourself?

This is a message to anyone who needs to hear it, and there are quite a few here; Don't fucking do it.

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da-ta:

Really good post, I think something also to consider is many people who are suicidal know that ending their lives will hurt those who love them, but in their mind they think those people will be able to move on and have a better life with them gone and not “dragging them down,” which feeds into a lot of nihilism that you see with suicidal individuals. Also many suicidal think that simply no one cares, so who will be hurt if they stop living? Again feeding into a nihilistic mindset. I get the intention of the original post you reposted, I’m no harm was meant, but I think the overall effect would be negative as you said, exacerbating an already poor self image and furthering a belief that one is unworthy of love. I’m also just glad someone is better at articulating this stuff than I am.

6/28/2025, 1:52:43 PM

pufferfish101007:

thank you for this. whilst the post you reposted had good intentions, I don't think it was worded very well - if I was in a particularly bad place and read that, I would be very unhappy. Attacking people (which is what it came across as) for feeling the way they do is never going to help. I also think that, for mental health related matters, rather than trying to convince people that what they're feeling is wrong and bad, it's much better to acceot that they feel that way, and try to change the root cause, or try to channel those negative emotions in a different way that still allows for some release. I am not a mental healthcare professional, so obviously take what I say with a pinch of salt, but from what I understand of mental healthcare professionals (who I believe do usually have people's best interests at heart, and often do a good job), a more compassionate approach is definitely the way to go. @the-owless pinging you so you see this - thank you for campaigning against suicide. It’s important. But please consider at least adapting the tone and language you use to discuss it.

6/28/2025, 8:33:35 AM

pufferfish101007:

wrong ping; @the-owlsss

6/28/2025, 8:33:59 AM