dertermenter — 5/24/2024, 4:57:48 PM

The lore behind him is actually crazy definitely the best and most interesting in the Scratch multiverse

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kiwi — 5/24/2024, 3:21:49 AM

i just found out why a popular animation scratcher who i enjoyed watching years back deleted their account. all i can say is, i had no idea they did the bad things they did, and i feel a little betrayed even though i wasn’t one of several scratchers who was affected by their actions… yikes.

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esben:

Scratch lore goes crazy tbh

5/24/2024, 7:01:52 PM
oren:

For real though, the deepest lore in the deepest fandom on the planet doesn’t even compare to scratch

5/24/2024, 7:36:59 PM
esben:

can someone explain the kaj lore to me

5/24/2024, 7:37:42 PM
oren:

Kaj was a user in like 2008 who got mad when he didn’t get any attention and threatened to hack people, then got banned. But people decided to make it into a thing and so it’s a piece of lore now

5/24/2024, 7:41:17 PM
kiwi:

fun fact: lightnin confirmed in a now-buried comment thread that kaj actually owned another account, which is still accessible today.

https://scratch.mit.edu/users/qwert320

5/24/2024, 8:21:17 PM
dertermenter:

I know, and how Kaj emailed Scratch saying he liked the attention and wasn’t bothered

5/24/2024, 8:23:42 PM
kiwi:

i wonder if they’re still out there on the internet somewhere, and what they’re up to now.

i think kaj is interesting because they seem to be the only instance where the naming and shaming rule is exempt as long as you’re only stating the facts

5/24/2024, 8:28:13 PM
dertermenter:

yeah. Scratch are defo trying to distance themselves from Kaj now though, a lot of forum posts on Kaj (cited in the wiki) are now deleted and if it happened past 2016 it would defo all be private

5/24/2024, 9:08:49 PM
kiwi:

hence why, for example, “paddlergames controversy” is not an article on the scratch wiki, since it’s so recent (unless several wikians vote to make it an article, that’s what happened with kaj)

5/24/2024, 9:22:29 PM
dertermenter:

yeah and I don’t think many know about the statement

5/24/2024, 9:55:02 PM
kiwi:

before i dug deeper into paddler and saw the statement, i was like everyone else where i just took what paddler said in his goodbye project and was like “oh yeah, he got bored. too bad.”

yeah no, it went deeper than that.

5/24/2024, 10:16:59 PM
kiwi:

more interesting than kaj, i’d argue.

5/24/2024, 5:37:08 PM
dertermenter:

I agree since it’s less well known, have you seen his essay?

5/24/2024, 8:20:45 PM
kiwi:

you mean this? yes, this is where i found basically all of this info out.

https://archive.org/details/regarding-paddlergames-from-those-involved

5/24/2024, 8:25:47 PM
dertermenter:

yes

5/24/2024, 9:07:42 PM
owl:

"I wanted to annoy Gio even more, so I took his real life school address | got from his Instagram and the YouTube channel with the Dhar Mann parody, and used Python to spam it on his newest project, because his profile comments were closed. I didn't understand that doing this was illegal at the time, and I didn't think I could possibly get in legal trouble for it." I- huh?!

5/25/2024, 12:19:17 AM
kiwi:

yeah, i, uh… i can’t believe it either.

there’s been three confirmed times where scratch projects were sent to law enforcement. i’m gonna assume that that number went up to at least four, seeing as… that happened.

5/25/2024, 12:29:49 AM
owl:

Also, "And it was even worse than when I pirated the Mario Movie" he said something above this about not knowing it was illegal. I pirate games and shit (NOT for indie developers though) from the Google Play store, and I've done that since I was around 13, but I've known even since then that it was illegal. No one even had to tell me, I just knew I was committing a crime. How did that not cross his mind??

5/25/2024, 12:56:56 AM
kiwi:

oh by the way that’s illegal

i have no idea. either this guy had absolutely no morals, or he was lying about not knowing it was illegal to prevent himself from getting in even more trouble with the law, maybe?

5/25/2024, 12:59:33 AM
owl:

No clue

5/25/2024, 1:08:10 AM
pkmnq:

“I didn’t know it was illegal” is the only excuse? Legality is his only concern?

5/25/2024, 5:28:04 AM
owl:

No morals I guess

5/25/2024, 9:51:01 PM