I heard a theory where this entire coup was planned so Ukraine has more confidence and pushes their military further into Russias defenses, it makes a lot of sense when you think about him going to Belarus and having such an abrupt stop.
If you don’t think Russia can come up with plans like that, you are degenerate, western media shows Russia as a very weak and stupid nation which is not the case.
>fails to invade said sovereign nation and loses tens of thousands of men and billions in material
yes a sovereign nation that has received NATO training and equipment since 2014, as well as tens of billions of dollars of equipment since the start of the war, and yet their counteroffensive is still failing
>thinks invading a sovereign nation is good diplomacy
there is obviously a reason for this, it’s not like Putin got tired of having no wars and wanted to have some action!!! also this is just stupid, why don’t you talk about when the US invaded iraq and killed a million for weapons of mass destruction
Getting beat by some pocket change and random tech from the 80s rotting in a warehouse, lol. Also, remind me why Ukraine has been receiving funding since 2014 in the first place. Gotta love that whataboutism too.
Let’s see… Challenger 2s are from 1986, Storm Shadows 1994, F-16s 1974, Leopard 2s 1979, Abrams are from 1980, Humvees 1983, Bradleys 1981, M113 1960, the list goes on and on, and only for around 6 percent of the US military budget. Also, I seemed to have forgotten, what happened with Ukraine and Russia in 2014? Didn’t Russia illegally annex territory or something? I really can’t remember!
“only 6 percent” :skull: pffft i mean if it was 7 i would understand, but it’s only 6!! and everything you just listed is still used and operated by the US, it’s not like its some old run down equipment, its new equipment, made this decade.
What happened when the US illegally invaded iraq!?!?!?!1?
Well obviously it’s not run-down, because Western designed armaments tend to do what they’re designed for. Yes, they’re still being manufactured, but what’s being sent to Ukraine isn’t stuff right off the assembly line. Iraq isn’t relevant to this discussion at all.
If Iraq isn’t relevant then Russia “illegally annexing land in 2014” isn’t relevant to our conversation on aid to Ukraine.
I do not know why you are implying Russian armaments don’t do what they’re designed for.
>but what’s being sent to Ukraine isn’t stuff right off the assembly line
so what? if you said for yourself, that “Western designed armaments tend to do what they’re designed for” then it shouldn’t matter if they were made 20 years ago or not
and how do you know the military aid to Ukraine isn’t stuff right off the assembly line?
You said that the West has been arming Ukraine since 2014, which is true. This is because of Russia’s annexation of Crimea.
For one, the T-14 Armata is being used as artillery.
Things depreciate in value over time.
Because that would be silly.
I’m just going to assume that you have been trolling me this entire time. If so, you got me. If not, have a good night and a fun three-day special military operation.
im going to assume you trying to finish the argument like this as a sign of defeat, because if you still wanted to prove your point, you would not stop.
No, it’s just 12 in the morning and I’d rather not spent the next few hours talking with a brick wall. I could write a thirteen-page essay with a thousand citations if I wanted to, but you are not acting in good faith, so it will just be a waste of time.
>have a good night and a fun three-day special military operation
oh so you are mocking how long the war has been? are you happy it’s been for longer than 3 days? happy more Ukrainians and Russians are dying? you seem like a fun human being
I heard a theory where this entire coup was planned so Ukraine has more confidence and pushes their military further into Russias defenses, it makes a lot of sense when you think about him going to Belarus and having such an abrupt stop.
You’re being really generous with Russia’s ability to make plans that sophisticated
If you don’t think Russia can come up with plans like that, you are degenerate, western media shows Russia as a very weak and stupid nation which is not the case.
>stupid
thinks invading a sovereign nation is good diplomacy
>weak
fails to invade said sovereign nation and loses tens of thousands of men and billions in material
>fails to invade said sovereign nation and loses tens of thousands of men and billions in material
yes a sovereign nation that has received NATO training and equipment since 2014, as well as tens of billions of dollars of equipment since the start of the war, and yet their counteroffensive is still failing
>thinks invading a sovereign nation is good diplomacy
there is obviously a reason for this, it’s not like Putin got tired of having no wars and wanted to have some action!!! also this is just stupid, why don’t you talk about when the US invaded iraq and killed a million for weapons of mass destruction
Getting beat by some pocket change and random tech from the 80s rotting in a warehouse, lol. Also, remind me why Ukraine has been receiving funding since 2014 in the first place. Gotta love that whataboutism too.
wdym random tech from the 80s? it’s literally high quality equipment, why Ukraine has been receiving funding? to combat Russia
Let’s see… Challenger 2s are from 1986, Storm Shadows 1994, F-16s 1974, Leopard 2s 1979, Abrams are from 1980, Humvees 1983, Bradleys 1981, M113 1960, the list goes on and on, and only for around 6 percent of the US military budget. Also, I seemed to have forgotten, what happened with Ukraine and Russia in 2014? Didn’t Russia illegally annex territory or something? I really can’t remember!
“only 6 percent” :skull: pffft i mean if it was 7 i would understand, but it’s only 6!! and everything you just listed is still used and operated by the US, it’s not like its some old run down equipment, its new equipment, made this decade.
What happened when the US illegally invaded iraq!?!?!?!1?
Well obviously it’s not run-down, because Western designed armaments tend to do what they’re designed for. Yes, they’re still being manufactured, but what’s being sent to Ukraine isn’t stuff right off the assembly line. Iraq isn’t relevant to this discussion at all.
If Iraq isn’t relevant then Russia “illegally annexing land in 2014” isn’t relevant to our conversation on aid to Ukraine.
I do not know why you are implying Russian armaments don’t do what they’re designed for.
>but what’s being sent to Ukraine isn’t stuff right off the assembly line
so what? if you said for yourself, that “Western designed armaments tend to do what they’re designed for” then it shouldn’t matter if they were made 20 years ago or not
and how do you know the military aid to Ukraine isn’t stuff right off the assembly line?
You said that the West has been arming Ukraine since 2014, which is true. This is because of Russia’s annexation of Crimea.
For one, the T-14 Armata is being used as artillery.
Things depreciate in value over time.
Because that would be silly.
I’m just going to assume that you have been trolling me this entire time. If so, you got me. If not, have a good night and a fun three-day special military operation.
none of anything you said proves your point ?
im going to assume you trying to finish the argument like this as a sign of defeat, because if you still wanted to prove your point, you would not stop.
No, it’s just 12 in the morning and I’d rather not spent the next few hours talking with a brick wall. I could write a thirteen-page essay with a thousand citations if I wanted to, but you are not acting in good faith, so it will just be a waste of time.
>have a good night and a fun three-day special military operation
oh so you are mocking how long the war has been? are you happy it’s been for longer than 3 days? happy more Ukrainians and Russians are dying? you seem like a fun human being