“God gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus.”
Where do y’all think this was written? Make your guess and then look in the comments for the answer
“God gives you good news of a Word from Him, his name will be the Messiah, Jesus.”
Where do y’all think this was written? Make your guess and then look in the comments for the answer
This was written in Quran Surah Ali ‘Imran 45
Even the Quran says that Jesus is the “Word”!
this has been expressed since like forever
we don’t perceive Jesus as a God but as a prophet because the idea of God is an independent omnipotent figure with no limits
in Islam we believe Jesus (isa) was a prophet and had performed miracles, and was empowered by Allah, and that Mary (Maryam) was a virgin when she gave birth to Isa
he was sent down by Allah to spread the “Word” (as you mentioned in your original post), which was Islam
it wouldn’t make sense if God had a son because then there’d be someone else on his level, which wouldn’t make him independent/superior
literally translates to “there is no deity worth worship than Allah” (implying that God (Allah is just God in Arabic) is the only one worth worship, and that he’s omnipotent and independent)
hurts my brain when Twitter chuds think Islam hates Jesus or that we pray to pbuh Muhammad or something, we don’t worship prophets we worship God
sorry if anything I wrote here sounds disrespectful or rude i’m really bad at wording stuff and I don’t mean to come off as disrespectful, I just think it’s great that people are genuinely opening their eyes and realizing that monotheistic religions share a lot of things in common
Hey, thanks for this response. That’s really interesting. As a Christian, I would say that God has to be more than one person (though united as one God), and here’s why. We claim God is loving, and Islam does too. But for God to be loving, He must have someone to love. Before God created anything, He was still loving, because God is fundamentally a Father loving His Son. If Allah is only one, alone before creation, He would have no one to love before He created humanity. That makes Him almost dependent on humans to be loving. God can’t perfectly love without being a Trinity.
interesting take
well the concept of an omnipotent figure is that they’re entirely independent, regardless. loving is a trait, and to be loving you don’t have to have anything to love. you can be a loving person without loving anything directly because it’s seen as a personality trait — something that defines you.
and in theory, by this logic then God would depend on someone else for him to be loving, if he has to love someone else.
if God is ultimately superior and omnipotent, and supposedly independent, then he can’t rely on another person or figure. it just literally wouldn’t make sense. it contradicts the entire point of a God.
wouldn’t this just make God the opposite of omnipotent? if he can’t love perfectly alone (without depending on an external figure) then he isn’t perfect nor is he omnipotent — and in theological and philosophical contexts, to be omnipotent means to be independent as well.
(again sorry if I say anything that may come off as rude or disrespectful i’m just really bad at wording stuff, this is an interesting conversation and I dont wanna sound mean or rude or something)
I think that’s an interesting point. But I have a question though. Who is God, like at the most basic level in your eyes?
i believe that Allah is the one singular creator of the universe as we know it, from my perspective. nobody comes close to his level of power and he’s omnipotent(+independent), making him basically superior
That’s really interesting. I don’t know much about Islam and I really want to learn. But that does make me wonder, if Allah’s very identity is to be The Creator, The Ruler, then doesn’t he need a creation to rule in order to be who he is? Doesn’t that mean He kinda needs us to be the creator?
Not trying to argue or criticize, I just want to learn
no i totally understand taht you wanna learn lol, i dont take things offensively but i can be a bit insensitive with what i say sometimes
idk how to word it properly but i’ll just use a (shitty, but accurate) analogy:
an author doesnt have to write a book to be an author
Thanks for having this conversation by the way. I’m probably gonna live in the Middle East at some point after I graduate, and I want to learn as much as I can about Islam because it’s obviously the biggest religion there
you’re welcome! sounds fun, any countries in mind?