dertermenter — 9/19/2023, 7:28:00 PM

Lads, I dislike Elon just as much as the next wasteof user, but this isn’t true.

People are just misinterpreting his comment. He just said that there may be a new tier of Twitter preminum that costs less.

Source: https://twitter.com/netanyahu/status/1703806204894498966 (this is the literal interview he did which people are saying he said this) Yes, the first quote on 34:40 seems to support @imadeanaccount’s claim, but if you go on (at about 35:30) he then seems to clarify he’s referring to a new, lower priced subscription.

Here is the quote:

… so pioritising posts written by by X premium subscribers, we’re actually gonna come out with a lower tier pricing so y’know, we’re wanting it to just be a small amount of money, that this is the (stumbles) it’s a longer discussion but in my view this is the only defense against vast armies of bots.

The reasoning that this proposed new lower tier of premium may happen is to combat bots, which was also mentioned in the original quote that people are alarmed over (people saying this quote is saying about putting twitter behind a paywall)

"The single most important reason that we are moving to having a small monthly payment for the use of the X system, is it is the only way I could think of to combat vast armies of bots,"

The reasonings correlating on both the quotes makes me believe he was originally talking about a lower, cheaper tier all along, and that he was just unclear.

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asfsdgdfd:

there’s a reason your repost only has two likes. it’s because wasteofers checked my source (and yours) and came to the conclusion that my understanding is what Elon actually said.

9/20/2023, 2:26:47 PM
dertermenter:

No it’s not.

You have more followers

people like shitting on Elon.

9/20/2023, 2:27:16 PM
asfsdgdfd:

i have double the followers but 7 times the number of likes. that doesn’t add up.

9/20/2023, 2:27:40 PM
dertermenter:

2nd point

9/20/2023, 2:27:56 PM
asfsdgdfd:

i never said you weren't right about what he meant. it's very possible that he did mean what you said he meant. it's just that he didn't actually say that even if he meant it. my original post simply said that he said there might be a paywall, which is true. however, it is also possible that he was trying to say something else but as i am reporting about news, i can only base my conclusion on what he said.

if Elon notices that he misspoke/said something that he didn’t mean, he can easily make a tweet to clarify. he’s definitely seen all the news and yet is clearly choosing to stay silent. most CEOs would comment if they notice that the media is reporting them saying something they didn’t mean, especially something so critical to the company’s survival that could make them lose money/business, as people will leave Twitter. i hope this can be the conclusion to our disagreement and i hope you understand that i can not make any assumptions/conclusions beyond what he actually said.

9/20/2023, 2:35:28 PM
dertermenter:

Whatever but I haven’t really done anything wrong

9/20/2023, 2:46:15 PM
dertermenter:

also, when I reposted your post, your post was already on 7 likes, and was already on trending. And since it was on trending already, your post got attention by everyone, even if they didn’t follow you. So a lot more have seen your post, and because it’s shitting on Elon who no one likes people are bound to like it

9/20/2023, 2:45:29 PM
portalpower:

Friendly reminder that bandwagon isn’t an argument (also no one checked shit).

9/20/2023, 2:50:36 PM
asfsdgdfd:

several people have already checked the sources and agreed with me. i'm not using it as proof of my point but merely because of something that dertermenter implied in a previous comment.

9/20/2023, 2:51:56 PM
chiroyce:

bruh news channels say its to prevent bots from making more accounts, should’ve known better from media

9/20/2023, 11:28:36 AM
dertermenter:

All the media is just taking it out of context

9/20/2023, 2:21:04 PM
chiroyce:

yeah

9/20/2023, 2:37:51 PM
portalpower:

Yeah, that quote seems like it was probably just a poorly worded description of the lower tier rather than undeniable proof of a new paywall.

9/19/2023, 9:42:00 PM
dertermenter:

+1

9/20/2023, 6:18:12 AM
asfsdgdfd:

are all of these news sources lying?

9/19/2023, 7:34:12 PM
dertermenter:

yep

9/19/2023, 7:36:33 PM
asfsdgdfd:

read my comment to oren below

9/19/2023, 7:36:54 PM
oren:

Oof, I didn’t know this

9/19/2023, 7:30:53 PM
dertermenter:

I have to be honest, you were right that people overhate elon sometimes. Even when he hasn’t done anything wrong. People just like to jump on the bandwagon :/

9/19/2023, 7:33:31 PM
oren:

It’s true for anyone who disagrees with a large group of people. It’s built in to the human brain to have extreme responses to negative feedback.

9/19/2023, 7:35:55 PM
asfsdgdfd:

this is a quote by elon:

"The single most important reason that we are moving to having a small monthly payment for the use of the X system, is it is the only way I could think of to combat vast armies of bots,"

9/19/2023, 7:36:38 PM
dertermenter:

I know, it’s being misinterpreted. It was unclear but he was talking about a lower premium, that was nowhere mentioned everyone had to pay.

9/19/2023, 7:38:21 PM
asfsdgdfd:

a small payment for the use of X seems pretty clear. has he clarified his statement somewhere?

9/19/2023, 7:39:15 PM
dertermenter:

I think he has - I’ll check

9/19/2023, 7:39:47 PM
oren:

derter is wrong, I know. I looked it up.

9/19/2023, 7:39:03 PM
asfsdgdfd:

thank you. i don’t get why @scolder and @dertermenter are trying to accuse me of lying with no sources

9/19/2023, 7:40:00 PM
dertermenter:

because I think you’re wrong and that if you are you’ve manipulated loads of people lmao

9/19/2023, 7:40:37 PM
asfsdgdfd:

but do you have any evidence to support your claim?

9/19/2023, 7:41:58 PM
asfsdgdfd:

i forget where i asked, but can you send a quote/summary where he clarifies his statement. i don't have time to watch the whole video rn. thanks!

i have no intention of spreaidng misinformation and would like to be informed (with sources) if this does happen. as of now i have not seen any proof of your claim (i can’t delete my post/apologize/retract my statement unless i know why i’m wrong).

9/19/2023, 8:00:37 PM
dertermenter:

sure, I will send you the quote. I’m honestly just not trying to start an argument, it’s just I think people should be informed of misinformation if it is genuienly incorrect. I know you have no bad intentions, he was unclear and clarified a minute later, but I think it may have been misinterpreted.

9/19/2023, 8:02:08 PM
dertermenter:

… so pioritising posts written by by X premium subscribers, we’re actually gonna come out with a lower tier pricing so y’know, we’re wanting it to just be a small amount of money, that this is the (stumbles) it’s a longer discussion but in my view this is the only defense against vast armies of bots.

9/19/2023, 8:07:12 PM
asfsdgdfd:

but this is after he says he will charge users a small amount for use of X.

we’re actually gonna come out with a lower tier pricing so y’know

i understand this to mean that the mandatory fee will just be a lower cost fee.

9/19/2023, 8:08:32 PM
asfsdgdfd:

you have to think about the meaning (of his previous statement). he says that for a bot to post tweets, it will need to pay money, in the hopes that they won't be able to pay, thus stopping bots from posting on Twitter.

this directly implies that ordinary twitter users (who will also have to verify their identity/that they're not a bot) will also be charged the "small" fee.

9/19/2023, 8:12:18 PM
dertermenter:

don’t believe everything you see

9/19/2023, 7:40:03 PM
dertermenter:

factos

9/19/2023, 7:36:46 PM